The Phoenix Suns are hiring Frank Vogel to be their next head coach

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Coaching hardly matters, very few can outcoach their talent level. So a coach’s job is minor adjustments here and there, and don’t fukk it up.

Monty alienated Ayton and crowder. A starting center and a potential rotation player. That ALONE is the definition of fukking it up. Don’t matter if he was right, don’t matter how popular it is to shyt on Ayton. That’s your job to manage personalities. He didnt do it . Vogel has done it.

First off Crowder is fukking trash. There’s a reason he’s been on 20 teams. Williams simply asked him to come off the bench because he wanted Cam in that starting 4 spot and Crowder thought a bytch fit. The Ayton situation is 50/50. Yea Monty could have done more but it’s up to Ayton to not be a timid big man who shrinks in the moment. And it wasn’t just Monty who had issues with him. His team doesn’t like him. Go search that video of Bridges getting at him mid game for being soft. Vogel did wonders for Hibbert who is less skilled so we will see. I still think they move Ayton to shore up that roster, especially their bench
 

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First off Crowder is fukking trash. There’s a reason he’s been on 20 teams. Williams simply asked him to come off the bench because he wanted Cam in that starting 4 spot and Crowder thought a bytch fit. The Ayton situation is 50/50. Yea Monty could have done more but it’s up to Ayton to not be a timid big man who shrinks in the moment. And it wasn’t just Monty who had issues with him. His team doesn’t like him. Go search that video of Bridges getting at him mid game for being soft. Vogel did wonders for Hibbert who is less skilled so we will see. I still think they move Ayton to shore up that roster, especially their bench
It happening once is fine, twice is :patrice: fair or not it reflects on the coach. Nggas try it with a coach they don’t respect/fear

And they can trade him IF they return a starter who can score. It’d be a gigantic mistake to assume KD and Booker is enough and they can just surround them with role players. That top heavy model is dead. Denver is so good bc their #3 and #4 are overqualified to be role players (MPJ and gordon). Even LA could say that with AR and when d lo was good

Phoenix may be best served to keep ayton and use cp3’s contract and a first to get back role players.
 

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It happening once is fine, twice is :patrice: fair or not it reflects on the coach. Nggas try it with a coach they don’t respect/fear

And they can trade him IF they return a starter who can score. It’d be a gigantic mistake to assume KD and Booker is enough and they can just surround them with role players. That top heavy model is dead. Denver is so good bc their #3 and #4 are overqualified to be role players (MPJ and gordon). Even LA could say that with AR and when d lo was good

Phoenix may be best served to keep ayton and use cp3’s contract and a first to get back role players.

First off Ben Simmons is the prototype. Get rid of Brown. He still flops under Rivers. Get out of Philly and go to a fresh start. He’s even worse in BK. Some players are who they are. And maybe Ayton is a just an underachieving soft big. Move him before he gets totally exposed. You not getting shyt for a decrepit CP3 and a first that will be at best mid round. Heat are in the finals with nothing but role players(undrafted too)and a b lever superstar. It can be done. You have two elite scorers. Complement them with someone other than Jake Landale and Josh Okgie
 

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First off Ben Simmons is the prototype. Get rid of Brown. He still flops under Rivers. Get out of Philly and go to a fresh start. He’s even worse in BK. Some players are who they are. And maybe Ayton is a just an underachieving soft big. Move him before he gets totally exposed. You not getting shyt for a decrepit CP3 and a first that will be at best mid round. Heat are in the finals with nothing but role players(undrafted too)and a b lever superstar. It can be done. You have two elite scorers. Complement them with someone other than Jake Landale and Josh Okgie
Well which one is it, you can win with no name role players or they need help? You can’t big up Miami’s undrafted role players but then clown jock landsdale and Josh okogie. If miami can do it, why couldn’t Phoenix?

I’ll tell you why. Bc not all stars (and/or culture) can bring out the same in every role player. Ie KCP has a bigger role with Denver than he did in LA. Bruce brown has a bigger role now than he did with…KD. I dont trust KD and book at ALL to bring out the best in role players. Especially without a PG. They gon play buddy ball.

So nah, KD and Book plus role players ain’t gon do it.
 

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Wished he would have joined the Celtics, would have been great for them

Not surprising seeing the comments in this thread. People always looking for the "slam dunk" coach, not realizing it's better to have a coach that is a great fit than have a coach that is a "great story"
 
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